What happens if you get stuck in a traffic jam, because of roadworks for another of their hare-brained road-narrowinf schemes and you end up being on the road inside the charge-time, for no fault of your own, will be then be charged?

It is US the motorists who should be charging the authorities for the congestion they caused!

   Perhaps we should consider who caused the congestion in the first place. Who closed roads? Who put a bus lane on Eccles New Road? Who made a mess of Eccles Town Centre? It wasn't motorists!!! Between Peel Green and Eccles there seems to be traffic lights at every side street. Why are lights programmed in such a way you end having to stop at every set? no wonder there is congestion. We are already paying through the nose to use our cars; Road Tax, Duty on Petrol Tax on Petrol Duty, we're already paying per mile!!! Tax on Car Insurance. There is also the Community Charge, and income tax.

Why are there so many potholes in the roads? They spend the money on "road improvement" schemes that actually make the problems worse. They need to get their priorities right!

From what I understand about the congestion charge, it may not apply to me, however this may change in the future. Like what Red Ken did when he extended the CCZ.

If it was just a matter of being charged to go into Salford City Centre or Manchester City Centre, then I'd simply avoid going there, but from the A57 onto the M602 is the only way I can get to work, if I end up paying more, I'll have to give my job up.

Public Transport is a joke and it's expensive, they should make it cheaper, not make driving more expensive, because this will be a license for them to charge more in fares.

What I say is; if you don't like it vote this Labour Party out, if you do like it, stop complaining about it.

Labour is stopping us working.

The Conservatives hammer the poor, but the Labour hammer the rich and poor.

   Sunday 6th Jan 2008. A nationwide newspaper advert from the Dept of Transport urging us to buy vehicles that produce less CO2. From a regime that is actively making traffic go even slower, using up far more fuel than is necessary, and undoubtedly causing far worse pollution. Have you ever heard worse hypocrisy?

   "Hold the front page on this.

Having just checked the Salford and Manchester web pages I found that both Jones and Leese are up for election NEXT YEAR!

Let's get em out, eh? polkyb 26/07/2007 at 12:55"

THANKS POLKYB !

Sorry, was spreading the word to every comment page I could, not pinching your brilliant find !

GET THEM OUT NOW !

SHOW THEM WHO'S THE BOSS AND WHO PAYS THEIR WAGES !

MOVE IT OR LOSE IT MATEY !

   Michael

Their number one tatic for getting the congestion charge through is to be a vauge as possible.

Everone, please work this sum out for your selves.

461500 car use the roads in Greater Manchester per day.

charge them all 5 pounds a day.

4 pounds is taken up in admin cost so it is only 1 pound after admin per car.

so devide by 5 to get the post admin profit.

multi by 5, multi by 52 to get the total annual sum.

deduct the 1.2 million interest only part of the 2 billion loan repayment.

its a minus figure.

do you still belive the 5 pound cap, I certainly do not.

www.manchestertolltax.com

www.gopetition.com/online/12888.html

   Selling Manchester airport as Manchester's most profitable enterprise for the foreseeable future makes no sense. For a start, congestion in Greater Manchester is not just Manchester's problem but the whole of Greater Manchester's problem so why should Manchester alone lose all it's profits year after year from this great airport while the rest of the co-owning authorities wouldn;'t have to. Also, if Manchester sold its majority holding,the airport's future direction would be totally out of the control of Greater Manchester. Is that acceptable to the Greater Manchester authorities ? This would be short termism at its worst. Congestion in Greater Manchester and the proposed Congestion Charge with huge investment in public transport should be considered in detail from the point of view of how much it would cost for a wide variety of journeys at different times as well as considering the very large amount of government money that seems to be on offer to fund the congestion charge setting up and implementation and the very substantial improvements in public transport to tempt people off the roads. Peter Mandelson once said of Northern Ireland that the devil was in the detail in seeking an agreement. The Congestion Charge proposals are such a case in point. People are being asked to vote on an issue they practically know no detail about at all on your web site so as far as I'm concerned those percentages in favour of the Congestion charge or selling off Manchester airport are a worthless indication of what course of action Manchester should take. Let's have much more detail of the costing of the Congestion charge and the improvements in public transport infrastructure in the initial stages of setting and the long term aspects of its funding and also consider the loss in income to Manchester each year and the repercussions of the loss (say in relation to council tax) if Manchester airport were to be sold. I should also mention that obtaining the necessary capital to fund the public transport improvements muted whilst in theory providing a satisfactory alternative to using the car, without having a disincentive to not use the car may still leave a large majority using their cars so that congestion and all its implications could still remain.

   Holy Mackerel! What do these drivers want? I went from Ashton bus station to Ancoats hospital seventeen times in nine days in 1970. Rain, hail, wind! You never caught me whinging about bus fares (and Ancoats was rough in them days!).

   The london congestion charge is a totally different thing,many groups are exempt,but according to the loonie labour manchester plan everyone will pay,just a slight reduction for vunerable groups,councillors and friend etc.

   A very clever plan by the govt introduce congestion charge in London no national outcry does not concern us let them pay it. Introduce it in M/cr, Londoners say we pay it why not them. The same strategy nationwide and soon you will not be able to travel without incurring some form of travel tax.

   Gordon Brown wants to give power to the people,well lets all write to Gordon and inform him that you will not vote for any labour party who supports the Manchester congestion charge.Mr Brown will need all the support he can get and will not like losing votes in any election,My letter is already on the way.I have informed him that I cannot vote for any Labour councillor or MP who supports the congestion charge.

   As a working mum who has a job in Manchester city centre - a car is a lifeline. I have to take and collect my child from the child minder each morning at specific times. I have no option but to use a car and no option but to travel within the proposed peak times. I can barely afford child minder fees let alone congestion charges on top - how does the government propose to support people in this position?

   Trica,johnson. Dick leese has said on TV and for the record,He does not want you taking children to school by car.I bet his children went to school by car.

   Here we go again - we wont - we wont - we wont, how many times have we heard that? until they apply the congestion charges and oops lets add another £1 here and there, I travel into Manchester daily, the traffic moves freely, there are lots of parking spaces. I worked in Burnage for a while it took me longer to drive there from Reddish than it does to get into central Manchester. What will happen if businesses decide to change their working hours, people who have families and need to get in and out to suit school hours will again be penalised, as ever the labour council/goverment just leaps ahead without thinking, will it be any better with a good old english prime minster, now which one is that, could it be that Scottish Chap Mr Brown, but who knows we may get a referendum the same as his home country did. We will have to wait and see.

   If you would like to meet Councillor Jones in person and put your questions to him this is his surgery.

Irlam Community Centre, Ferryhill Road, Irlam Every Tuesday 6.30 p.m. - 7.30 p.m

   Put your pension where your mouth is? Whatever you state now .if it changes you forfit your pension...PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS..If your so shure .